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UK WarzonFanboy1985

2022-09-20 23:14
Desscythe17 wrote

Only admins can do this.

Ok.
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2022-09-20 22:50
WarzonFanboy1985 wrote
How can I group a specific vehicle group into one subcategory for the different pre/post facelift versions and different bodystyles?
Example: www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=48508

Only admins can do this.
Webcarstory


UK WarzonFanboy1985

2022-09-20 22:36
How can I group a specific vehicle group into one subcategory for the different pre/post facelift versions and different bodystyles?
Example: www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=48508
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2022-01-10 19:30
Formik when you add a Top 10, please make sure that you are linking the correct cars. For example: Top 10 USA, link the Honda Civic that is sold on the American market, not the one that is sold on the European market. And for Germany, link the European Volkswagen, not the Chinese market one.

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Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2020-12-29 10:50
Rinspeed wrote
for the trim differences, yes it could be interesting but how could we do with the variety in different countries?

How do you mean? Right now you often do special editions just for French market, right? Isn’t that the same thing?
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2020-12-28 23:02
for the trim differences, yes it could be interesting but how could we do with the variety in different countries?
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2020-12-28 22:42
Desscythe17 wrote


- I think the technical data is the main thing of WCS, so I'm not very in favor of simplifying it. I think WCS is unique because it combines technical data with a better visual representation (most technical data websites are just walls of text and numbers). However, I'm not opposed to removing fuel consumption for example (because it's not a factual number, and so many sources for the same car claim different numbers - same with top speed and acceleration). The other data (other than trunk volume) in my opinion is important. Maybe we could do a different layout, so if you look at an engine, the data is more clear?

- Ads being deleted is fine.

- I don't personally care about colors and model cars, so do whatever you want. Limited series to me is not as interesting as trim differences, like I have explained in the past. We can keep it as is, expand it, or simplify it. To me what matters is having more slots for pictures, so you can show different looks of a car without having to make a new page for it.

- Top 10 is difficult. I like it, but the data is difficult to obtain, unless you are from that particular country/speak the language of that country. There are websites that gather all the data for different countries, but you have to pay in order to get the data. This is why I added a lot of this data in the past, but not anymore.

Yes perhaps a different layout for technical data
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2020-12-28 20:12
Rinspeed wrote
Hello,
What is your proposition of modifications for WCS? I have begin the work on it (in the same system than IGCD) but not a lot at this time.
I think we have to determinate the things that differenciate WCS from another car website or wikipedia.
Perhaps the technicals data are a little bit too complicated to add for members (simplification?) and very similar to a lot of websites.
Ads video are outdated> will be deleted
Limited Series, Colors, Model Cars are a difference with others websites
Championship is an important thing also
Top 10 less but it could be better for that and not a lot of work for it.
What are you think of all these things?


- I think the technical data is the main thing of WCS, so I'm not very in favor of simplifying it. I think WCS is unique because it combines technical data with a better visual representation (most technical data websites are just walls of text and numbers). However, I'm not opposed to removing fuel consumption for example (because it's not a factual number, and so many sources for the same car claim different numbers - same with top speed and acceleration). The other data (other than trunk volume) in my opinion is important. Maybe we could do a different layout, so if you look at an engine, the data is more clear?

- Ads being deleted is fine.

- I don't personally care about colors and model cars, so do whatever you want. Limited series to me is not as interesting as trim differences, like I have explained in the past. We can keep it as is, expand it, or simplify it. To me what matters is having more slots for pictures, so you can show different looks of a car without having to make a new page for it.

- Top 10 is difficult. I like it, but the data is difficult to obtain, unless you are from that particular country/speak the language of that country. There are websites that gather all the data for different countries, but you have to pay in order to get the data. This is why I added a lot of this data in the past, but not anymore.

-- Last edit: 2020-12-28 20:13:02
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2020-12-28 15:08
Hello,
What is your proposition of modifications for WCS? I have begin the work on it (in the same system than IGCD) but not a lot at this time.
I think we have to determinate the things that differenciate WCS from another car website or wikipedia.
Perhaps the technicals data are a little bit too complicated to add for members (simplification?) and very similar to a lot of websites.
Ads video are outdated> will be deleted
Limited Series, Colors, Model Cars are a difference with others websites
Championship is an important thing also
Top 10 less but it could be better for that and not a lot of work for it.
What are you think of all these things?
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-04-15 18:22
ok i will see. If JFK or others want to react, they can....
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2019-04-15 17:43
Rinspeed wrote
For others things, and simplifications:
Erase the vote for the design of a car?
Erase the translation of colors (only English/French)?
Erase the equipments of Limited series and just put the infos at the top (year/color/engine..) of the pages + the 3 pics = lot amount of work to not do as the equipments will gone and no more translation to do for them?

What you think all of this changes? It's just for a simplification of the website and less work for us

I think it's good, we are not a big team, so making the website a little bit simpler works.
Webcarstory




RB Mark0

2019-04-15 17:17
Rinspeed wrote

Ok i will see for erase some cars or championships. If i don't know, i will ask you. And for others things? What do you think?

Oh, my bad.
I meant DOESN'T deserve to be deleted :D

Also I agree with those three thing you said.
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-04-15 16:16
Mark0 wrote


Agree with that for circuits, but I think that this deserves to be deleted
webcarstory.com/champ.php?ch=965&annee=2018
But i am ok with those TCS classes in Italy.

Ok i will see for erase some cars or championships. If i don't know, i will ask you. And for others things? What do you think?
Webcarstory




RB Mark0

2019-04-15 16:08
Rinspeed wrote
For circuit races, i think we could like that:
For International championship> all cars except if the championship had less than 5 cars
For continental championship> all cars except if the championship had less than 10 cars
For national championships> all cars except if the championship had less than 10 cars, only major category (just some exceptions, as Japan GT500 and GT300 for example)
I have said all cars because in a majority of case it's always the same cars in a championship (but i you want you can put only the one with points) and there aren't a lot of them.

Mark0 are you ok with that for circuits championships?

For others things, and simplifications:
Erase the vote for the design of a car?
Erase the translation of colors (only English/French)?
Erase the equipments of Limited series and just put the infos at the top (year/color/engine..) of the pages + the 3 pics = lot amount of work to not do as the equipments will gone and no more translation to do for them?

What you think all of this changes? It's just for a simplification of the website and less work for us


Agree with that for circuits, but I think that this doesn't deserves to be deleted
webcarstory.com/champ.php?ch=965&annee=2018
But i am ok with those TCS classes in Italy.

-- Last edit: 2019-04-15 17:18:17
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-04-15 14:11
For circuit races, i think we could like that:
For International championship> all cars except if the championship had less than 5 cars
For continental championship> all cars except if the championship had less than 10 cars
For national championships> all cars except if the championship had less than 10 cars, only major category (just some exceptions, as Japan GT500 and GT300 for example)
I have said all cars because in a majority of case it's always the same cars in a championship (but i you want you can put only the one with points) and there aren't a lot of them.

Mark0 are you ok with that for circuits championships?

For others things, and simplifications:
Erase the vote for the design of a car?
Erase the translation of colors (only English/French)?
Erase the equipments of Limited series and just put the infos at the top (year/color/engine..) of the pages + the 3 pics = lot amount of work to not do as the equipments will gone and no more translation to do for them?

What you think all of this changes? It's just for a simplification of the website and less work for us
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-04-15 11:05
Ford78 wrote

I'm ok with that...

Ok so i will erase some cars in the future that aren't in the new rules
Webcarstory


PT Ford78

2019-04-15 09:55
Rinspeed wrote

An example:
www.webcarstory.com/champ.php?ch=719&annee=2016

Ford78 are you ok with that also?

I'm ok with that...
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-04-14 18:56
Mark0 wrote

Like what circuit championships?
I think that this is ok for rally as you said above.

An example:
www.webcarstory.com/champ.php?ch=719&annee=2016

Ford78 are you ok with that also?
Webcarstory




RB Mark0

2019-04-14 16:34
Rinspeed wrote

And yes i think there is a lot of problems specially with rally championship (it was difficult to complete them and a lot of subcategories). But perhaps it's also the case for some circuits championships in the past (with not a lot fo cars, and subcategories)
So are you ok with that?

Like what circuit championships?
I think that this is ok for rally as you said above.
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-04-14 13:25
Rinspeed wrote

i agree with all cars (same teams in all races, not a lot of cars).
And yes i think there is a lot of problems specially with rally championship (it was difficult to complete them and a lot of subcategories). But perhaps it's also the case for some circuits championships in the past (with not a lot fo cars, and subcategories)
So are you ok with that?
For International rally championship> all cars with points except if the championship had less than 5 cars
For continental rally championship> all cars with points except if the championship had less than 10 cars
For national rally championships> 20 first cars, more than 10 cars and only the major rally championship in the country (no subcategories), exception like France or Spain, with championship in Asphalt and other in Gravel (that are both major championships).

So?
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-04-13 10:56
Mark0 wrote
Starting from this year i am only adding TCR classes with DTM, BTCC, F1 and IndyCar.
I think that all cars should be listed for these championships.
And i always try to get all pictures, like i did in the past.
I agree that Rally championships are getting little out of control, but i am not adding them.

i agree with all cars (same teams in all races, not a lot of cars).
And yes i think there is a lot of problems specially with rally championship (it was difficult to complete them and a lot of subcategories). But perhaps it's also the case for some circuits championships in the past (with not a lot fo cars, and subcategories)
So are you ok with that?
For International rally championship> all cars with points except if the championship had less than 5 cars
For continental rally championship> all cars with points except if the championship had less than 10 cars
For national rally championships> 20 first cars, more than 10 cars and only the major rally championship in the country (no subcategories), exception like France or Spain, with championship in Asphalt and other in Gravel (that are both major championships).
Webcarstory


PT Ford78

2019-04-12 23:17
Rinspeed wrote
For championships, i think we have some rules to change:
What are the most important championships we have to do?
Explications:
Most Important International Championships: All the cars (except if there is an amount of cars like WRC) listed
Others International Championships + Continental Championships: Only Cars with points listed and at least 5 cars in the championship?
National Championships: 20 better cars in the championship (except if it's a championship with 20/30 cars) and at least 10 cars in the championship?

2 reasons for this: a lot of subcategories for a lot of championships that aren't very useful and doing a long list in the search list. Second reason; a lot of pics in national championships (cars > 20 positions) without pics.

I said also a logo for the championships but why not also add resume video from youtube also like we had do for advertising in cars page?

Your opinions (specially Mark0 and Ford78 that used a lot the championships)?


Adding a logo for the championships would be good for my opinion. :)

Well, in my opinion, if about 10-20 cars in the championship, then that would be good for me.
Webcarstory




RB Mark0

2019-04-12 21:04
Starting from this year i am only adding TCR classes with DTM, BTCC, F1 and IndyCar.
I think that all cars should be listed for these championships.
And i always try to get all pictures, like i did in the past.
I agree that Rally championships are getting little out of control, but i am not adding them.
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-04-12 14:53
For championships, i think we have some rules to change:
What are the most important championships we have to do?
Explications:
Most Important International Championships: All the cars (except if there is an amount of cars like WRC) listed
Others International Championships + Continental Championships: Only Cars with points listed and at least 5 cars in the championship?
National Championships: 20 better cars in the championship (except if it's a championship with 20/30 cars) and at least 10 cars in the championship?

2 reasons for this: a lot of subcategories for a lot of championships that aren't very useful and doing a long list in the search list. Second reason; a lot of pics in national championships (cars > 20 positions) without pics.

I said also a logo for the championships but why not also add resume video from youtube also like we had do for advertising in cars page?

Your opinions (specially Mark0 and Ford78 that used a lot the championships)?
Webcarstory




QA JFK

2019-03-23 12:35
> Question on the first page
- It isnt used very much, for me it is okay if it goes

> Bonus points
- That is also not used very much, although it is a nice insentive to add more info to cars

> Championships
- I dont do them

> Top 10
- I fill that up every year, I am all for it

> Car Spotting
- IGCD discord effectively replaced it

> Upcoming Cars
- Agreed with Desscythe17

> Colors
- I did them a few times when i have info, it can stay

> Limited Series
- I try to do them every once in a while

> Advertising videos
- It can stay

> Model cars
- I dont do them

> System of translation
- I tried to do translation but i kinda got stuck, also i think everybody here speaks english

> System of points members
- I dont care about that, since gaps between members are huge
Webcarstory




RB Mark0

2019-03-22 09:35
> Question on the first page
- I think it's ok to remove it

> Bonus points
- Also to delete

> Championships
- Logo would be nice

> Top 10
- I always add top 10 from my magazine, no idea about countries, but it seems there are only few countries added each year.

> Car Spotting
- IGCD Discord is there to replace this :)

> Upcoming Cars
- Agree with Desscythe17.

> Colors
- I am not adding that much civilian cars, but it seems nice to me

> Limited Series
- Same as colors

> Advertising videos
- They are good, but as Rinspeed say lot of them ends up deleted

> Model cars
- I don't have time to add them, but it seems nice

> System of translation
- I prefer English to Serbian, so I don't see point of having site in few languages when we all speak English

> System of points members
- I don't care about them.
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-03-22 08:51
No other one want to talk about the changes to do?
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-03-17 17:40
For me limited series, colors and model cars are here to let more fun on a page and not only pics + tech and with this we do differenciation with others website like WCS.
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-03-17 17:33
Sorry i had edit my message instead of adding one. I ask for changes for WCS (as i will do them this summer or before), if you have ideas, opinions on the differents things (see my precedent message).
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2019-03-17 17:33
Rinspeed wrote
I think this summer (or before if i have time) i will update a little WCS.
Tell me what is good, what is bad and what we can do if you have ideas.

> Question on the first page
- It was a fun idea, but it seems hard to keep this going. Maybe it's better to remove it?

> Bonus points
- I don't think points are that valuable, but there are a few people who add a red dot for one country for cars in the bonus points section.

> Championships
- Not my area

> Top 10
- Difficult to complete with data usually being in that country's language, or only being accessible afer paying. I still think it's interesting though.

> Car Spotting
- Seems like nobody does this anymore, it might be more interesting to put images on IGCD Discord.

> Upcoming Cars
- Would be nice to have an overview of the cars in this category. That way we can see if there are "upcoming cars" that are already for sale, as well as look at the cars that are going to be coming in the future.

> Colors
- Not interesting to me and it's an absurd amount of work.

> Limited Series
- Same as colors. Time spent on this could be spent adding new cars to the website.

> Advertising videos
- Fun, although I don't really watch any :)

> Model cars
- Not interesting to me

> System of translation
- Hard to implement. Random members translating the website can make mistakes, and it's not always clear what something means. The website could be more accessible if we had Chinese, Japanese, Russian, etc., but I don't think it's possible to have these languages. Also: If you translate the website into another language, it encourages people to comment in a different language > communication between members becomes more difficult.

> System of points members
- It's easy to say as the person with the most points, but I don't really care for it. Originally it was used to see whether someone could be an admin or not, but I think we can tell by how much work someone does, and whether they do good work.
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2019-03-17 17:16
For me:

So what we change? Can you evaluate the actual things on the site?
> Question on the first page
Interesting but a lot of work to update it each week> erase it?

> Bonus points
some members like it

> Championships
Good for me> perhaps a logo pic for a championship?

> Top 10
Good for me

> Car Spotting
we already said that it's not used> erase it and replaced by a section for upcoming cars?

> Upcoming Cars
To be developped more and updated more> creation of a section at the place of Car Spotting?

> Colors
Good for me> system of translation too difficult> simplification with french names for french cars, english names for others?

> Limited Series
Good for me> Problem also for translation and really long and difficult to do all the new cars> Simplifcation? Others?

> Advertising videos
Good for me but Problems with videos erased on youtube

> Model cars
Good for me

> System of translation
had to be simplified? Only the structure of website?

> System of points members
had to be simplified? erased? it's not a big problem but it cost a lot of ressources when you see a page or others things (calculate and recalculate...)


-- Last edit: 2019-03-17 17:32:04
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2018-06-04 19:51
Desscythe17 wrote

We could make a new list of makes? We can rename the existing one "A-Z makes" and have a new one with only big (American, European, Japanese, Korean) makes, for easier searching.

there is already some of them in the page makes...
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2018-06-04 19:46
Rinspeed wrote

Except that if we erase some things like bonus points or carspotting, we need to replace them in menu at the top of te page

We could make a new list of makes? We can rename the existing one "A-Z makes" and have a new one with only big (American, European, Japanese, Korean) makes, for easier searching.
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2018-06-04 18:34
fck wrote


Agree. Also the whole carspotting section can be deleted due to lack of popularity. There a lot of better places for it on the web, f.e. my carspotting account on flickr has 100k+ views per month.

Except that if we erase some things like bonus points or carspotting, we need to replace them in menu at the top of te page
Webcarstory




PL fck

2018-06-04 16:53
Rinspeed wrote

and the others members?


Agree. Also the whole carspotting section can be deleted due to lack of popularity. There a lot of better places for it on the web, f.e. my carspotting account on flickr has 100k+ views per month.

-- Last edit: 2018-06-04 16:54:07
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2018-06-03 23:49
Rinspeed wrote

I had Deutsch and Russian complete for IGCD (to add) and some want to open Portuguese, Polish and Hebrew

I see, that makes it difficult. I honestly can't think of a way to get around that..
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2018-06-03 22:53
Desscythe17 wrote

I don't know, is there any way for you to see how many people use WCS/IGCD in another language? I think the great majority uses the English page, so maybe we could get rid of translations.
You could also leave the languages we have now, because I don't think any new ones have been added in a very long time.

I had Deutsch and Russian complete for IGCD (to add) and some want to open Portuguese, Polish and Hebrew
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2018-06-03 22:22
Rinspeed wrote
Problem with removing points is that allow or not to translate IGCD or WCS. What can we do with that?

I don't know, is there any way for you to see how many people use WCS/IGCD in another language? I think the great majority uses the English page, so maybe we could get rid of translations.
You could also leave the languages we have now, because I don't think any new ones have been added in a very long time.

-- Last edit: 2018-06-03 22:23:20
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2018-06-03 22:15
Problem with removing points is that allow or not to translate IGCD or WCS. What can we do with that?
Webcarstory




QA JFK

2018-06-03 16:22
I think bonus points arent much used, but getting rid of them would go hand in hand with removal of points in general.
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2018-06-03 10:55
Desscythe17 wrote

Sounds good to me, everything that isn't used or rarely used can go.

and the others members?
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2018-06-03 10:40
Rinspeed wrote

No Car engine etc added successfully isn't a request.
Perhaps the points yes. I think also the note for intro in IGCD, the note for car in WCS (not used), the cars for the stars (i don't see them used)? Points for Carspotting? Tell me what you think and some things that we could erase without impact.

Sounds good to me, everything that isn't used or rarely used can go.
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2018-06-03 09:10
Desscythe17 wrote

I see, well if there is a problem with too many requests from the database, it looks like a lot of requests go to updating points.
I personally don't really care about points (don't know about other members), and I think we don't really need them to judge whether a member can be an admin or not.
So if it would be better for the database, points can be deleted entirely in my opinion.

I also don't know if it helps at all, but the page you get saying "Car/engine/location/whatever added successfully." doesn't seem necessary for me. If you add an engine for example and then immediately return to the car page, that works fine. It would even save time I think. I don't know if that has any impact on database requests though.

No Car engine etc added successfully isn't a request.
Perhaps the points yes. I think also the note for intro in IGCD, the note for car in WCS (not used), the cars for the stars (i don't see them used)? Points for Carspotting? Tell me what you think and some things that we could erase without impact.
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2018-06-02 23:59
Rinspeed wrote

Example for IGCD:

Same things for WCS but with a lot more requests as there is a lot more differents sections

I see, well if there is a problem with too many requests from the database, it looks like a lot of requests go to updating points.
I personally don't really care about points (don't know about other members), and I think we don't really need them to judge whether a member can be an admin or not.
So if it would be better for the database, points can be deleted entirely in my opinion.

I also don't know if it helps at all, but the page you get saying "Car/engine/location/whatever added successfully." doesn't seem necessary for me. If you add an engine for example and then immediately return to the car page, that works fine. It would even save time I think. I don't know if that has any impact on database requests though.

-- Last edit: 2018-06-03 00:01:26
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2018-06-02 23:27
Desscythe17 wrote

I'm not entirely sure what you mean with request at the database. What would you like to see from us?

Example for IGCD:
15 requests for all the pages:
- 2 request to update the date of the lang files in translation
- 13 requests to update the points of the visitor
- 1 request to update the date of the last visit

16 requests for a game page:
- 1 request to search the game of the page
- 1 request to see if there is some cars in the game
- 1 request to see if there is some tracks in the game
- 1 request to see the initial of the make to make a sub menu before the pics
- 1 request to see the pics and infos about each cars
- 1 request to see the sub menu with number after the pics
- 1 request to verify if the visitor had done a test for the game
- 1 request to see the results of the test of the game
- 7 requests for the note of the intro video ( to see if the user had already post one note or not and calculate it)
- 1 request for the comments

requests for a car page:
- 1 request to see the info of the cars
- 1 request to see if there is an update or not to approvate (for admins)
- 1 request for the comments

Same things for WCS but with a lot more requests as there is a lot more differents sections
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2018-06-02 16:33
Rinspeed wrote
Some news about the problems of IGCD and Webcarstory. This seems due to an overload on the site (a lot of visitors and a lot of request at the database). I had pay more to prevent that but they said that there is a lot of request in the database that could do problem also. So, just to see, is there fonctionnality that you see that there are useful in IGCD and WCS? I don't have the time now but i can do the list of the request to the database for the pages games/car in IGCD and make/car in WCS if you want to see them.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean with request at the database. What would you like to see from us?
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2018-06-02 09:12
Some news about the problems of IGCD and Webcarstory. This seems due to an overload on the site (a lot of visitors and a lot of request at the database). I had pay more to prevent that but they said that there is a lot of request in the database that could do problem also. So, just to see, is there fonctionnality that you see that there are useful in IGCD and WCS? I don't have the time now but i can do the list of the request to the database for the pages games/car in IGCD and make/car in WCS if you want to see them.
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2018-04-23 22:08
Rinspeed wrote

there is already comments in the championships pages

Oh I didn't notice, my bad.
Webcarstory




FR Rinspeed

2018-04-23 20:02
Desscythe17 wrote

That's true, maybe Years of Activity is better.

I meant like you made this page to discuss changes to WebCarStory, there should also be a page to discuss anything related to racing cars and championships on WCS, because those comments are often posted on random pages.

there is already comments in the championships pages
Webcarstory




NL Desscythe17

2018-04-23 19:56
Rinspeed wrote

what? i don't understand
you don't prefer years of activity? because in some case there is some "hole" in the activity with a relaunch.

That's true, maybe Years of Activity is better.

I meant like you made this page to discuss changes to WebCarStory, there should also be a page to discuss anything related to racing cars and championships on WCS, because those comments are often posted on random pages.
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