Web Car Story: Moskvich

Moskvich

	Origin: Russia Headquarters Moscow, Russia Years of Activity 1946-2002, 2022-present

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Current Production

Since 2025 Moskvich 8

Since 2024 Moskvich 5

Since 2023 Moskvich 6

Since 2022 Moskvich 3

Discontinued Production

1998-2002 Moskvich 2142 Knyaz Vladimir

1997-2002 Moskvich 2141 Svyatogor

2000-2001 Moskvich 233521

1999-2001 Moskvich 2142 Duet-1

1999-2001 Moskvich 2142 Duet-2

1999-2001 Moskvich 2142 Ivan Kalita

1998-2000 Moskvich 2141 Yuriy Dolgorukiy

1997-1998 Moskvich 2141 Yuriy Dolgorukiy

1986-1997 Moskvich 2141 Aleko

1990-1995 Lada Aleko

1980-1988 Moskvich 2140

1976-1985 Moskvich 2137

1976-1982 Moskvich 2140

1975-1976 Moskvich 412 IE

1970-1975 Moskvich 412 IE

1969-1975 Moskvich 408IE

1969-1975 Moskvich 426E

1967-1969 Izh 412

1967-1969 Moskvich 412 E

1967-1969 Moskvich 426

1966-1969 Moskvich 408E

1964-1969 Moskvich 408

1963-1965 Moskvich 403

1963-1965 Moskvich 403E

1963-1965 Moskvich 424

1963-1965 Moskvich 424E

1960-1963 Moskvich 407

1958-1963 Moskvich 423N

1958-1961 Moskvich 410N

1958-1961 Moskvich 411

1958-1960 Moskvich 407

1957-1958 Moskvich 410

1957-1958 Moskvich 423

1956-1958 Moskvich 402

1954-1956 Moskvich 401-420

1946-1954 Moskvich 400-420

1949-1952 Moskvich 400-420A

Author	Message
JFK 2015-11-10 21:17	Who came up with bright idea to translate it as Moskvich? It is derived from Moscow, so Moskwich would be more suitable. (If it is not clear - it is not mistake done by anyone here, but someone who translated it in cold war)
fck 2015-11-10 23:31	[quote=JFK]Who came up with bright idea to translate it as Moskvich? It is derived from Moscow, so Moskwich would be more suitable. (If it is not clear - it is not mistake done by anyone here, but someone who translated it in cold war)[/quote Can't find why we're using 'w' in Moscow, but this is an exception. в is a 'v' in every cyrillic-english transcription standard. Why not 'Moskva'? Because in XII century this city was called "Moskov".
JFK 2015-11-10 23:37	fck wrote Can't find why we're using 'w' in Moscow, but this is an exception. в is a 'v' in every cyrillic-english transcription standard. Why not 'Moskva'? Because in XII century this city was called "Moskov". If am I not mistaken, cyrilic alphabet doesnt have W at all. I must say though, Moscow would look oddly with normal V, but that is only habit. In fact, I dont see reason why they did W either. For sure it looks odd when we are using W in city name and V in car name. It should be either all W, or all V.
Desscythe17 2015-11-11 10:31	JFK wrote If am I not mistaken, cyrilic alphabet doesnt have W at all. I must say though, Moscow would look oddly with normal V, but that is only habit. In fact, I dont see reason why they did W either. For sure it looks odd when we are using W in city name and V in car name. It should be either all W, or all V. You might be overthinking it. The English translation should be exactly the way you hear it. So if you hear a v-sound instead of a w-sound, it should be Moskvitch. It might be similar to the centuries-old debate about "vodka" or "wodka".
JFK 2015-11-11 14:56	Desscythe17 wrote The English translation should be exactly the way you hear it. So if you hear a v-sound instead of a w-sound, it should be Moskvitch. It might be similar to the centuries-old debate about "vodka" or "wodka". That may be the problem. In czech language, V and W have exactly same pronounciation. But as I thought about it more, I think I somehow get it now (and thanks to IGCD member krq9), because english W sounds similar to mine U, so it would sound more oddly. -- Last edit: 2015-11-11 14:57:11
SolanaBogon 2023-02-07 09:24	Why "Moskvitch", and not "Moskvich", without the "t"? Not only it is the correct English transcription of cyrillic "Москвич", but it is also how they spell it on brochures (at least English ones) and export badges: www.autominded.net/brochure/div9/1969%20Moskvich%2006.jpg -- Last edit: 2023-02-07 09:25:33
Desscythe17 2023-02-08 15:08	I would be fine with changing it, but I don't know if the system will recognize it for everything. -- Last edit: 2023-02-08 15:08:46
SolanaBogon 2023-02-09 19:32	Desscythe17 wrote I would be fine with changing it, but I don't know if the system will recognize it for everything. You could rename the main page and I'm willing to edit manually the individual entries
Desscythe17 2023-02-09 20:12	SolanaBogon wrote You could rename the main page and I'm willing to edit manually the individual entries There you go

Author

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JFK

2015-11-10 21:17

Who came up with bright idea to translate it as Moskvich? It is derived from Moscow, so Moskwich would be more suitable.
(If it is not clear - it is not mistake done by anyone here, but someone who translated it in cold war)

fck

2015-11-10 23:31

[quote=JFK]Who came up with bright idea to translate it as Moskvich? It is derived from Moscow, so Moskwich would be more suitable.
(If it is not clear - it is not mistake done by anyone here, but someone who translated it in cold war)[/quote

Can't find why we're using 'w' in Moscow, but this is an exception. в is a 'v' in every cyrillic-english transcription standard. Why not 'Moskva'? Because in XII century this city was called "Moskov".

JFK

2015-11-10 23:37

fck wrote

Can't find why we're using 'w' in Moscow, but this is an exception. в is a 'v' in every cyrillic-english transcription standard. Why not 'Moskva'? Because in XII century this city was called "Moskov".

If am I not mistaken, cyrilic alphabet doesnt have W at all. I must say though, Moscow would look oddly with normal V, but that is only habit. In fact, I dont see reason why they did W either.

For sure it looks odd when we are using W in city name and V in car name. It should be either all W, or all V.

Desscythe17

2015-11-11 10:31

JFK wrote

You might be overthinking it. The English translation should be exactly the way you hear it. So if you hear a v-sound instead of a w-sound, it should be Moskvitch. It might be similar to the centuries-old debate about "vodka" or "wodka".

JFK

2015-11-11 14:56

Desscythe17 wrote

The English translation should be exactly the way you hear it. So if you hear a v-sound instead of a w-sound, it should be Moskvitch. It might be similar to the centuries-old debate about "vodka" or "wodka".

That may be the problem. In czech language, V and W have exactly same pronounciation.
But as I thought about it more, I think I somehow get it now (and thanks to IGCD member krq9), because english W sounds similar to mine U, so it would sound more oddly.

-- Last edit: 2015-11-11 14:57:11

SolanaBogon

2023-02-07 09:24

Why "Moskvitch", and not "Moskvich", without the "t"? Not only it is the correct English transcription of cyrillic "Москвич", but it is also how they spell it on brochures (at least English ones) and export badges:

www.autominded.net/brochure/div9/1969%20Moskvich%2006.jpg

-- Last edit: 2023-02-07 09:25:33

Desscythe17

2023-02-08 15:08

I would be fine with changing it, but I don't know if the system will recognize it for everything.

-- Last edit: 2023-02-08 15:08:46

SolanaBogon

2023-02-09 19:32

Desscythe17 wrote

I would be fine with changing it, but I don't know if the system will recognize it for everything.

You could rename the main page and I'm willing to edit manually the individual entries

Desscythe17

2023-02-09 20:12

SolanaBogon wrote

You could rename the main page and I'm willing to edit manually the individual entries

There you go

Moskvich

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Current Production

Since 2025 Moskvich 8

Since 2024 Moskvich 5

Since 2023 Moskvich 6

Since 2022 Moskvich 3

Discontinued Production

1998-2002 Moskvich 2142 Knyaz Vladimir

1997-2002 Moskvich 2141 Svyatogor

2000-2001 Moskvich 233521

1999-2001 Moskvich 2142 Duet-1

1999-2001 Moskvich 2142 Duet-2

1999-2001 Moskvich 2142 Ivan Kalita

1998-2000 Moskvich 2141 Yuriy Dolgorukiy

1997-1998 Moskvich 2141 Yuriy Dolgorukiy

1986-1997 Moskvich 2141 Aleko

1990-1995 Lada Aleko

1980-1988 Moskvich 2140

1976-1985 Moskvich 2137

1976-1982 Moskvich 2140

1975-1976 Moskvich 412 IE

1970-1975 Moskvich 412 IE

1969-1975 Moskvich 408IE

1969-1975 Moskvich 426E

1967-1969 Izh 412

1967-1969 Moskvich 412 E

1967-1969 Moskvich 426

1966-1969 Moskvich 408E

1964-1969 Moskvich 408

1963-1965 Moskvich 403

1963-1965 Moskvich 403E

1963-1965 Moskvich 424

1963-1965 Moskvich 424E

1960-1963 Moskvich 407

1958-1963 Moskvich 423N

1958-1961 Moskvich 410N

1958-1961 Moskvich 411

1958-1960 Moskvich 407

1957-1958 Moskvich 410

1957-1958 Moskvich 423

1956-1958 Moskvich 402

1954-1956 Moskvich 401-420

1946-1954 Moskvich 400-420

1949-1952 Moskvich 400-420A

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